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Balancing

Posted by Shari On 3/31/2010 09:21:00 PM 2 comments
What's the difference between a patient and a healthcare professional?

Is it education? Experience? Intelligence? Sometimes it's any combination of these factors, and sometimes it isn't. Sometimes the patient is a healthcare professional. Doctors get sick sometimes, too.

So when a pharmacist counsels a patient, it's important that you understand who you're talking to and how much they want or need to know. Of course, this is something that's taught in every pharmacy school in the country, and it seems pretty intuitive. You don't want to explain pharmacology to the 7-year old child, or tell a critical care nurse that "this white pill will make you feel better."

One place it does sometimes get a little complicated is the situation my preceptors are currently in. I'm in a drug information rotation, working for a company that produces, among other things, drug interaction databases for pharmacies and patient education handouts (obviously, for patients). The problem is that these two databases don't always coincide. The department creating the database for pharmacies/pharmacists tends to be a little more selective about which drug interactions and which side effects are included. They only include things that are likely to cause problems and that are decently well documented in the literature. The patient education handouts, on the other hand, include anything and everything. Everything listed in the package insert, every theoretical interaction and side effect, are all listed with warnings in strong language.

The retail pharmacies my company sells these products to are not happy about that. They're concerned that a patient will see these warnings and be angry that no one warned him or her about it. They're worried that the patient might just stop taking the medication on their own. It's a valid concern, I think; it happens more than it should.

The issue hasn't been resolved, and I'm not sure how it will be. But it brings up an important question. How much do you tell patients about their medications? There's a fine line between keeping patients informed and scaring them away. There are a lot of drugs that have extremely rare, but potentially serious, side effects. You can die from an allergic reaction to an antibiotic. Tylenol, even in low doses, can give you liver failure, and ibuprofen can in some cases give you renal failure. It's important that patients be aware that you have to be careful when taking drugs. But it's also important for them to understand why the drug is necessary.

Does that mean we shouldn't use these drugs? In general, no. For drugs that are currently on the market, we've decided that the benefits outweigh the potential risks by a great enough margin. But it's still scary to think that you might be the one patient in a million who gets a blood clot from birth control.

I think the best way to explain it is through risks and benefits. Yes, there is a risk for every drug you might take, and that's why it's better to be on fewer drugs. But in the vast majority of cases, you are more likely to get sick from the disease than from the drug.

(Of course, this comes with the caveat that the risks and benefits need to be clarified in clinical trials. But that's what phase III drug trials are for.)

It's not as obvious as it sounds, when you're the patient reading that package insert. I had a friend call me recently, one who's in the medical field, because she wasn't sure if she should take the course of antibiotic she had been prescribed. She was concerned about the serious (and potentially real) side effects she might get from the drug. I think it put things in perspective a little more when I pointed out that the risk of getting endocarditis (and having to be on IV antibiotics for six weeks at least) was greater than the risk of getting this side effect. But if you aren't used to thinking about things in terms of risk, benefit, and likelihood, it's easy to get caught up in what could happen.

The Way Things Work

Posted by Shari On 2/28/2010 09:39:00 PM 2 comments
One of the benefits of my current rotation, cardiology, is that it's not at my university hospital.

There's only one cardio rotation at University Hospital, so because cardiology was lower on my list of Most Wanted Rotations, I got sent out to Smaller Hospital 40 minutes away, which has a big cardiology department. (It's not a small hospital, exactly - their CCU alone has 17 beds. It's just smaller than most I've been to.)

So I'm a bit out of my comfort zone, because I don't know the hospital or their computer systems or the way they practice pharmacy. When I got there, I found that there are a number of other students from another nearby pharmacy school who do all of their rotations at Smaller Hospital. They, of course, know the system very well, and they were happy to show me around.

But it's interesting to see how pharmacy is practiced differently. For example, at this hospital, the pharmacy (the staff pharmacists, not the clinical pharmacists) is responsible for doing about half the Coumadin and antibiotic dosing. As such, they routinely write orders for certain antibiotics, INRs, and antibiotic levels. Their stewardship program consists of monitoring all the restricted antibiotics (and then not being able to do anything about it unless they're consulted. It's a pretty ineffective stewardship program). Another thing I've noticed is that they're big on loading doses. They load Coumadin (which I'm pretty sure is flat-out wrong, even though they have their adaptations and apparently haven't had any major problems). I've also seen loading doses of Vancomycin and aminoglycosides. That's something I almost never saw at University Hospital, though it's not necessarily wrong.

And of course, sometimes it feels just like home. Their pharmacy, like all others, is in the basement. Clinical pharmacy there works pretty much the same as it does at University Hospital - you make recommendations to the intern and/or the residents, and you're responsible on rounds for knowing all about drugs. And the interactions among pharmacists, doctors, and nurses are about the same as what I've seen other places.

It's a little reassuring to know that some things never change. Next year I'll (hopefully) be doing a residency year, and my top two choices are 600 miles away from here. So hopefully, this experience will help me learn to adapt to a different hospital in a different place. The students from Other Nearby Pharmacy School have occasionally said that they wish they could do rotations in other places, just to see what it's like. I'm glad my school gives us that option.

Alb: If some of the terminology is above your head, refer to the comments for a bit of clarification from Shari. :-)

What do you do with guidelines?

Posted by Shari On 1/30/2010 03:22:00 PM 0 comments
Today, I'm going to write about something that came up on my infectious diseases rotation this month.

The Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) just published new guidelines for treating intra-abdominal infections. They came out at the beginning January. Apparently, there's been some debate in the ID world over whether these guidelines have too much industry influence. Several of the authors of the guidelines have connections with drug companies, and several of those drug companies happen to have recently come out with some very broad-spectrum, very expensive new antibiotics. These new antibiotics are part of the guidelines, and they are listed as options to treat intra-abdominal infections while some older, generic antibiotics were excluded because of concerns about resistance.

So there is debate and controversy over these new guidelines. The issue becomes a bit more complicated when you look at it from the hospital's perspective. We try to practice evidence-based medicine, as much as possible, and guidelines from major organizations like the IDSA are important tools in doing that, since they are essentially literature reviews. At a hospital like UM, the hospital's guidelines and policies might be based on the IDSA guidelines.

The question then becomes, if you are responsible for creating your hospital's antibiotic policies, what do you do with these guidelines? If you think there's too much industry bias, do you still base hospital policy on them? Do you ignore them? Do you just take the parts you think are unbiased and ignore the rest? And if you have to go through and figure out which parts are biased and which are not, how is that different than creating your own guidelines and ignoring the IDSA ones?

And if you have a patient with an intra-abdominal infection, and they die, and the patient's family thinks you should have used one of these newer, broad-spectrum antibiotics, then what? The patient's family/lawyers can point to the guidelines and say, look, here are national guidelines that say you could have used this drug. Why didn't you? Then you are left defending the tenuous position that national guidelines don't constitute standard of care.

And yet, if you really think that using the newer antibiotics will unnecessarily increase resistance and cost, you are ethically (and financially) obligated to restrict them.

It's a balance that each hospital has to find on its own. I think a big part of the answer is to look at resistance levels at your hospital, and to decide whether the older antibiotics will work in most cases or not. Cost, as always, is important as well.

In the end, guidelines are just that - guidelines. They shouldn't dictate policy on their own; there should be a significant amount of thought put into the value of the guidelines and of policy changes at a given hospital. That's why there are infectious disease specialty physicians and pharmacists.

On Pharmacy as a Career

Posted by Shari On 12/27/2009 09:45:00 PM 0 comments
Over the past decade or two, the profession of pharmacy has undergone a sort of identity crisis. As an adjunct healthcare professional, where do we fit in the grand scheme of medicine?

The easiest answer to that question is basic retail and hospital pharmacy. We dispense drugs. A doctor writes a prescription, or (in a hospital) orders a drug, the pharmacy makes sure it's a valid prescription and that the doctor didn't make any obvious errors, and the patient gets the drug.

A broader definition, though, and one that lets us fulfill a larger role, is that a pharmacist is a drug expert. In the community, the pharmacist is the most readily accessible healthcare professional. They get questions from patients, family members, and occasionally doctors, and if they're lucky and don't work for a high-volume store, they talk to as many patients as possible about their prescriptions. In drug companies and insurance companies, the pharmacist is the drug information specialist, and answers questions and makes formularies and such. In the hospital, this has given rise to the idea of the clinical pharmacist, who is able to play a much more active role in a patient's care.

A clinical pharmacist (which is what I want to do) is the hospital's expert on drugs. They round with doctors and follow patients, make recommendations, do the dosing on things like gentamicin and vancomycin (which have to be calculated), deal with anticoagulation, catch any drug-related medication errors, and whatever other drug-related things they can fit into their day. Some have become nutrition specialists and handle all the TPN orders; some go into academia and do research and teaching. The job really is whatever you want it to be.

And essentially, they are a consult service for other healthcare professionals. A nurse might ask if two IV medications can be mixed together without precipitating; a doctor might ask for help calculating a dose. A student might ask about pharmacology or pharmacokinetics, and a patient might ask about side effects.

It's a new and ever-changing field, but it's getting bigger, especially as younger doctors graduate and have some idea of the kind of resource a pharmacist can be. And as new pharmacists (like me!) graduate and work to make pharmacy a bit more progressive in the next decade.

On Pharmacy and Surgery

Posted by Shari On 11/17/2009 02:55:00 PM 0 comments
Pharmacy and surgery are often considered diametrically opposed fields. For many conditions, treatment options are surgery or drugs. There are clinical trials that directly compare, for example, surgery vs. chemotherapy for prostate cancer. In pharmacy school, we aren't taught anything about surgery. Sometimes it'll be noted as part of a treatment algorithm- try this drug, then this drug, then if that doesn't work do surgery.

So what is a clinical pharmacist doing on a surgery team? Because that's what my November rotation was. Pediatric surgery.

When I started on this rotation, I didn't know what to expect. What kind of drugs do they use on a surgery service?

Mostly, the answer to that question is pain medication and antibiotics (for wound and line infections). Pain medication was mostly Tylenol and morphine, since all of our patients were children, but there were a few more complicated drugs that pharmacists could help out with. Ketorolac, for example, should always be given with ranitidine (in children) and should only be used for 5 days at a time. More often, we were able to help with antibiotic dosing, especially since they often used vancomycin and gentamicin, which have to be monitored with drug levels. Soon, the medical residents were turning to us, the pharmacy students, for our opinions on interpreting drug levels and how we would change the dosing.

As for me, I learned a lot about surgery. It was a whole world of medicine I had never been exposed to- appendectomies, bowel resections, intusussception, and even surgery to remove something stuck in a child's throat.

So in the end, surgery and pharmacy can learn a lot from each other. Surgeons don't know much about drugs, though their patients often need them. And pharmacists often know nothing about surgery, even though patients on almost any service may need it.

In medicine, even polar opposites sometimes work best together.

On Alternative Medicine

Posted by Shari On 10/01/2009 07:08:00 PM 0 comments
My first rotation, in August, was supposed to be about pharmacy compounding. As it turns out, though, compounding pharmacies tend to do a LOT of alternative medicine, herbal medicine, supplements, weird off-label uses of drugs with no evidence to support them...whatever you want to call it. This one, in particular, also had a clinic where "alternative medicine" doctors came to see patients.

I won't get into how unhappy I was about my situation, or how ethically compromised I felt. What I do want to talk about is one of the first questions that came to mind. Most of our patients were from Ann Arbor, and they were fairly homogenous. They were well-educated, upper middle class, and typically (though not always) women in their 40s and 50s. And so I wondered. What was it that made these people come to us? What made them turn from their doctors and from normal medical practice? Why were they more willing to trust someone who charged $200 for a consultation than someone they could see for a $15 copay?

The inevitable conclusion was that these were people who, for one reason or another, had lost faith in the medical system. They all had PCPs, who they were disillusioned with. They all had medical problems that could not be or had not been solved. They were intelligent, well-educated, independent people and you knew that they had thought, well, if my doctor can't
fix me, maybe someone else can. One of the most common questions we got was, why couldn't my doctor diagnose this? Why didn't they know about this (weird, alternative) diagnosis?

As a healthcare provider, this disturbed me very much. All the good we do is based on the assumption that our patients trust us. If they don't trust us, they won't come back for followup appointments, they won't take their meds, and they won't do the things necessary for staying healthy.

So what is the problem here? Why didn't these patients trust their doctors? Three points come to mind.

1. We don't spend enough time with our patients. This goes for both doctors and pharmacists, and probably other providers as well. Our days are busy- we see lots of patients and we deal with a seemingly endless stream of paperwork and insurance issues. It's sometimes easier to just tell the patient, this is what you have and this is what you need to do, and not spend any time explaining why, or going through the risks and benefits of treatment (or no treatment).

We had a patient, in the compounding pharmacy, who came to us because she had been having some generalized symptoms- headache, fatigue, lack of energy, etc, and also had some weird rash/dermal thing on her foot. When the pharmacist asked her if she'd seen a dermatologist, the patient said, "well, no, that's just it. My doctor didn't even look at it! She just told me to go see a dermatologist." That was probably a reasonable reaction on the part of the doctor- if the patient described this rash thing, it probably would have sounded like something outside the realm of a PCP. And if any specialty work were to be done on it, she would have to go see a dermatologist anyway. But all the patient heard was that the doctor was brushing her off, or didn't have time for her, or didn't care about her. If the doctor had taken the time to stop and look at this rash, or to explain to the patient that she wasn't really trained to deal with this sort of thing, and that a dermatologist might be better able to help her, then maybe our patient wouldn't have abandoned the entire medical system.

Those consultations were a full hour for new patients, or half an hour for repeat patients. How many normal doctors have time to spend more than 15 minutes talking with a patient? How many pharmacists have time to spend more than 15 seconds talking with a patient?

2. Educated patients like to have some say in their care. In the pharmacy world (and probably in the medical world as well) we call this "patient autonomy." If you give patients options, discuss treatments, discuss disease states and let the patient decide that treatment is necessary, they are more likely to follow through with it. Not to mention that in most cases the patient does have a right to have some input into what their treatment will be.

And if your patient has done some Internet research and has come up with some alternative treatment, it then becomes necessary to acknowledge that treatment and explain why it is unlikely that it will work, rather than just brushing it off.

We had a case where a women came to us for hormone replacement therapy (HRT) after her doctor put her on estrogen alone, and the patient thought that this was the wrong decision. As it turns out, she was right to an extent- using estrogen alone, without progesterone, can increase your risk of breast cancer. Now, progesterone itself has side effects, and without knowing the details of the patient's history and family history I can't say whether it was the right decision or not. But our patient came to us because she felt that she didn't have any say in her treatment.

3. We don't communicate clear expectations for patients of what medical treatment has to offer. The classic case is the patient taking an anti-depressant, which can take up to 6-8 weeks to reach its full effect, who stops taking the medication after a week because it's not helping. Many of our patients at the compounding pharmacy had been put on antidepressants for those general physical symptoms, depressed mood, and lack of energy. Only very rarely did these patients stay with the antidepressants for more than a few weeks. Maybe it would have helped, maybe not- but no one ever told these patients that we wouldn't know for a while.


In the end, like some many things, it comes down to communication. We in the healthcare world have a responsibility to communicate with our patients, to tell them what we are doing and why, and what they should do and why. Equally, our patients have a responsibility to come to us when they have questions, or problems, or side effects, or treatment failures. This is one of the best ways in which we can build trust in ourselves, our patients, and the medical system in general.

Pharmacy Benefit Management Companies

Posted by Shari On 8/30/2009 05:25:00 PM 0 comments
This summer, I worked for the company everyone hates. Doctors, nurses, patients, pharmacists- everyone hates dealing with us and with the paperwork we create. I worked for a pharmacy benefits management company.

Those of you not in the pharmacy world might ask: What is a pharmacy benefits management company? The standard answer, which I always found extremely circular and frustrating, is that we manage pharmacy benefits for various insurance companies. In practice, it means that we are contracted by an insurance company to handle the everyday affairs of prescription claims. The patient takes a prescription to the pharmacy, they electronically bill the insurance company, and the insurance company's computer software automatically (according to a standard protocol) accepts or rejects the claim. When the pharmacy gets a rejection, either they or the doctor's office can call us, the PBM, to fight it. When the doctor's office sends in a prior authorization, we get it and we either make the decision, call the doctor's office for more information, or call and tell them it's been rejected.

We didn't have the final say in most cases, but we knew the general rules. No Nexium unless you've tried (and failed) Prilosec OTC. No Allegra unless you've failed Claritin. The list goes on. And so the doctors hated us because we were denying their patients meds that they felt were superior, and because we made them go search the patient's chart to find out whether they'd ever been on Claritin. And the pharmacies hated us because they had to tell the patients that their drug wasn't covered.

But with healthcare costs (especially prescription drug costs) spiralling higher and higher, insurance premiums rising, and the possibility of universal healthcare that would cost taxpayers however-many trillion dollars, there is clearly a role in healthcare for cost containment.

Let's take proton pump inhibitors (PPIs). We got a lot of prior authorizations for PPIs. Most of the insurance companies we worked for would approve Prilosec (omeprazole) with no problems. If you wanted to use a different PPI, you would have to show that the patient had used Prilosec and still had symptoms. To me, this was a reasonable rule. The efficacy rate of omeprazole is very similar to that of the other PPIs (such as rabeprazole, lansoprazole, pantoprazole, or esomeprazole). In fact, esomeprazole is just an isomer of omeprazole. They are essentially the same drug, except that esomeprazole is brand-name only (Nexium) and costs probably ten times as much. Doctors know this, or they should if they routinely prescribe PPIs. Yet we still got tons of requests for Nexium, or Protonix, or Aciphex for brand-new patients. Maybe a drug rep had given some samples to a doctor. Maybe the patient wasn't satisfied with something that was "just" an OTC drug and wanted something "better." There could be any number of reasons. I would call the doctor's office and ask if the patient had ever tried Prilosec. The nurse would say no, and I would say okay, they have to try Prilosec before we'll pay for anything else. And they would say okay, and a few hours later I would be able to check and see that the patient had filled a prescription for Prilosec.

So in that case, it makes sense to have someone regulating the transaction whose primary interest is economic. The insurance company saves money (sometimes over $100/month), the patient pays a lower copay, and insurance premiums nationwide go down (or at least don't go up).

Another benefit to PBMs is in catching medication errors (which, again, saves money). The best example of this is in Advair inhalers. There are two types of Advair inhalers- a traditional aerosol inhaler and a diskus. Unfortunately, the directions are different. The inhaler is taken as two puffs twice daily, and the diskus is taken as one inhalation twice daily. So when we saw a prescription for Advair diskus, two puffs twice daily, we knew that some doctor had confused the directions. We would call to get it fixed because the insurance company wouldn't want to pay for two inhalers in one month- but in the process, we saved a patient from overdosing on salmeterol and getting tachycardia or even a heart attack.

Of course, this isn't all-inclusive and won't catch everything, but it's always good for the system to have more checks.

The major problem with an insurance company or a PBM is the inherent conflict of interest. It was in our best interests to choose the lower-priced Prilosec over the equally-effective and higher-priced Protonix...but it was also in our best interests to choose a less effective but lower-priced drug over one that was more effective but higher-priced. And if there was ever a judgement call on a case, it almost always resulted in us rejecting the claim. Transdermal patches, for example, are really expensive in general, and we were very reluctant to cover them if there was an oral version available. A request for transdermal patches might be rejected solely because the patient had other oral meds in their profile and clearly was physically able to take drugs orally. Even a liquid version of a drug for a child might be questionable if the child was older than 6 or 7. There were times when I dreaded calling the doctor's office back, because I disagreed with the judgment that had been made and I knew that the doctor's office would too.

How can we get rid of this conflict of interest while still being cost-conscious? There is, obviously, no easy answer. Perhaps one of the best systems is what's used in hospitals, where a P&T committee, made up of the doctors who will be prescribing these drugs to their patients, is able to create the formulary for the entire hospital. This isn't very practical in the real world, unless we want to create groups of doctors who would also have a financial interest in an insurance company. (Which, of course, would create other conflicts of interest.) So I really don't know what the answer is. Educating patients and doctors helps, of course, and so does choosing conscientious pharmacists to work at PBMs. But that won't solve the problem entirely.

It's just one of the problems that will hopefully be addressed when our country's healthcare system is overhauled, over the next few years.